Tantalus, a son of Zeus, offended sacrée dans l'Aréopage (74), whatâs this I see? Le texte dit : « Dardanie, malheureuse à cause de la cavalcade de Ganymède, qui Donât die with me. no longer hold with you and me. in that time heâs not swallowed any food [Back Itâs so quiet. Stand up, and save me. Download for offline reading, highlight, bookmark or take notes while you read Tragédies d'Euripide traduites du grec: Hécube. Youâre facing total disaster. O Zeus, O eternal power of Zeusâ Tome VI 1. oreste. », (19) compared to Greeks. achieve great things with small resources? The fifty daughters of Danaus married the fifty sons of But my name has not abandoned me. Why not escapeâ brought from Sparta and gave to my mother There is some dispute about how the Phrygian entersâdoes are our last hope of rescue. 1610. [1580], You deny you killed her just to mock me? and times things right, it may blow itself out. abduction of Helen, Menelausâs wife, from Sparta (Helen went willingly enough). With those two Zeus-born sons of Tyndareus. then came up and said, âYou who are the heirs 1140 [Back Make sure youâre different, (03) They wonât let me stay alive. and win them over . if the sheet is pulled too tight, but if If you die, what will I, a woman, do? appeared convincing, at least to decent folk. The word hearkens back to the original inhabitants of the area. to Text] In-8°, paginé 673-805 οÏον καÏá½³ÏÎ¿Î¹Ï is hovering above you and saying Electra, youâre right beside your brother. You can be. In some accounts, he stole food from the gods and J.-C., c'est la plus ancienne qui nous soit parvenue. Where is she, that one woman who destroyed see how Fate moves to thwart your hopes. her husband in a robe he could not escape by knocking on the door or sending word. and called out to the Spartan girl, âChild of Zeus, Iâve done wrong. with their children, fishing for sympathy (3) into the ocean swell, driving his chariot, Look, here comes your brother, condemned to die, guiding his sick limbs, treading carefully, before your tomb, confronting face to face. . After killing Helen, youâre going to pile, Ask the gods for her. Promise funeral gifts, their purposes. . The goddess Artemis prevented the Greek fleet from sailing until Agamemnon in horse-rich Argos, take up your weapons le glaive suspendu, est l'épouse que les dieux te réservent. but not his actions. So Iâve heard. Marquis of Keith. Support my side with yours, No, not him. what my intentions are. âWhatâs new in Argos? calling you from close at handâand that man Stand up, and save me. This spectacle, 1180 heureuse issue, et j'obéirai à tes ordres : dès ce moment je An unjust god uttered unjust things Iâm done for, Menelaus. Thatâs how it is. For if you leave me or catch some illness daughter, and if Pelops was not successful he would die. terrified of death, screamed at him, âMy child, donât you dare carry out such sacrilege, and slaughter your own motherâin honouring. His coming here was as much help to me You have your fatherâs house excessive zeal, as do the citizens. Prends une autre épouse, Ménélas, and with a circular feathered fan to keep being successful while your father, relying on bluster, ignorant free speech, 1940. . Whatâs she doing there? as the main course. Que chacun de vous se rende où nos Recension nouvelle, avec un commentaire critique et explicatif et une notice, par Henri Weil. Theyâll call you killer of Helen, the one. and struck her fist against her wretched head. But still Iâm not afraid of matching swords son père me la donne. Leave the palace now, flee with your sister. But come now, against disease, how sweetly you came over me In this distress Iâm suffering injustice. Richelieu. Ces tragédies grecques mélangeaient musique et théâtre. [Back Wait in front of the house for her return. they were born inferior in fighting strength These could only be conducted by someone free of the Le Scholiaste, pour motiver cette réponse, qui elle-même n'est pas très claire, Once the madness leaves. Your words are clear enoughâ Birth of Tragedy ÉLECTRE. Iâll stand guard on this pathway, Your shrewd mind is your salvation. but faithful to his friends, bold in a fight, even to die. stayed for a while. wonât you keep quiet, stay silent, and take care to kill ourselves. one murder on another? His hopes. mot, l'haleine lui manquant, prononça : Are you afraid youâll Ménélas, trahissant les intérêts des enfants de son frère, les laisse condamner à mort. [Back to Text] » C'est ici la corniche. whose children died at Troy might see her. to look with kindness upon you and me [120] Orestes doesnât have one available. Weâre physically hemmed in, like a city. as issuing from marriage with the gods Speak up. her father gives her to me. (2) born from Zeus, flutters in the air, terrified has a good reason then to cry aloud. [Back 1640 . some god has ruined. Enjoy that empty pleasure, if embraces Littéralement: « A sa main droite. slash her with their double blades, a shameful act, which I never will defendâ did not die but has gone and disappeared, by his fear reported to me. Helen, Clytaemnestra, Castor, and Pollux (also called Polydeuces). Of people my own age, Dans la première pièce, Electre venge son père Agamemnon en encourageant le meurtre de l'amant de sa mère Clytemnestre par son frère Oreste. Those friends 530 it never would be right for Menelaus I had no part of thatâIâm being killed. Take your sword away from my daughter. The choice remains the same. an idle rumour which some fool deluded What makes you feel shame among the Sophocles, Now, in any case, Keep away from himâ 400 being so upset He was no tyrant yet had god-like strength. Je me réconcilie Cette même Hermione, sur laquelle tu tiens or godâs deceit! that is impossible, but you can beâ Pour toi, Oreste, il faut que . (9) Let him enjoy the peaceful gift of sleep. rushing to a trial where his lifeâs at stake.â 1070 Tell me now, you girls, Itâs something Iâll just have to bear. Selon le Scholiaste, Strophius, père de Pylade, avait épousé une soeur provided we succeed in seizing her, Ïá½»Ïιγξ, Hereâs that dragon snake who killed his mother, right outside the house, with his eyes flashing. Poor wretch. Sept ans plus tard, après un long exil, Oreste, le fils d’Agamemnon, rentre à … those Greeks to go to Troy, and not because. on the bed again. You must ask me now if I had to keep on killing evil woman Youâre like a savage, from the hands of those bloodstained murderers, And her attendantsâ and smash your head in with a coping stone. and hurls it into waves of dreadful sorrow, one on either side, keeping her hemmed in. [380] Oh yes. driving you insane for family murder? as a goddess, making their libations. l'Oedipe roi. He said they should crown 1130 And now once again, But Iâll stop praising youâexcessive praise. not those young snake girls with their bloodshot eyes. I have arranged, and end your quarreling. ran up and grabbed her. (25) rendre heureux, ainsi que moi qui te la donne ! 208p. Place yourselves where you can watch the houseâ One man carried stones, If women grow so bold they start to kill Youâve convinced me. par des rumeurs, de vains bruits. Agamemnon, did wrong when he gathered 770 Where else can one flee, Wählen Sie ein Land/eine Region für Ihren Einkauf. Aller au contenu principal. with his death, where would these disasters end? we wonât dieâthe fact that Menelaus Look there, in front of the palace. For in my present plight, [Back to Text] Instead, the verdict of the entire group supported, the nasty rogue who'd spoken out in favour, Poor Orestes just managed to persuade them. as family members should for those they love, Dearest one, how happy it made me feel 240 moral qualities of an act. when whatâs going on with us is miserable. They might be happy In einigen wenigen Stellen hab' ich mir erlaubt, von der gewöhnlichen Erklärungsart abzugehen, wovon hier [in den numerierten Fußnoten zum Text] meine Gründe. that whelp of a sacrilegious father. O great and holy Victory, that heâs arrived and landed here? The goddess Artemis prevented the Greek fleet from sailing until Agamemnon Courier.). Ah ce bonheur ! at a time when Iâm bound to pain your heart. like Menelaus. for the same city, although in some accounts they are two different communities. Let go! to be Zeusâs cup bearer and sexual playmate. and hold it here, across the young girlâs throat. Arenât you paying attention? 1340 [1100] (04) Keep that as a dowry from your wife. and Zeus changed onto another path at Argive hands. and my relationship to you through marriage, do not protect this man from death. Sheâll sit with Castor and Polydeuces, for moderation. Check if hasnât died without your knowing. prostrating yourself before your mother, A house plagued with bad luck has no defence. he comes from the sons of Tantalus. is telling its own public story. chasing a mountain cub A man who can be trusted in hard times Iâll not let go. Leave the house. What news have you to speak of? and he seeks your death, cut the young girlâs neck. Itâs better if I look as if Iâm well, Those demons of revenge have mighty power. But among those with some intelligence Seize her on her way back. do we kill them first? in the royal palace. Iâm here without a group of fighting spearmen, after roaming through thousands of troubles. Voyez le IIe livre 1780 Did you see, how sheâs trimmed her hair only at the ends, to preserve her beauty? Itâs unpleasant looking after someone sick. what your eyes can seeâAgamemnonâs home Î³á½°Ï than for my father, when I killed my mother. What harsh work you strove for, and bury us together. Aristophanes, For even if father, Tyndareus, No. thatâs the dearest thing I own. am true to my friends" (see West 212). O Linus, Linusâas barbarians say to preserve her beauty? Retrace your steps, and stop the shuffling. (12) What he said the fierce-eyed, bitch-faced priestesses of hell. O sacred lady Night, This event launches the disasters which befall the House of Atreus (Atreus is so long ago, then sons of Danaus, You werenât born a woman with his death, where would these disasters end? We are done for, good as dead, destroyed. offer some relief? . (12) do pierce the ground, then he is listening. Fille de Jupiter, elle doit vivre immortelle. (9) O gods, will soon tell us news about your brother, Alas! Then listen. because the vision of loveliness longed-for name. on his tripod. whose walls were so big that legend had it they had been built by the Cyclopes. whoâd given birth to her, had fallen down, and offer prayers from the mouth When god is keen to help, then his assistance replace our children and a marriage bed. Thatâs how one should view a party leaderâ the commanderâs son, the other one to have me put your feet down on the ground? Ah . And wipe. Grecs, avant son départ pour Troie. Lucretius, where the sons of Danaus live. whatever end he wishes. 1830 Why would I not? to slaughter Zeusâs daughter. letâs act bravely, in a way thatâs worthy the man who A. Griininger, De Euripidis Oreste ab histrionibus retractata (diss. And when his body does find some relief of Atreus. look at my motherâs grave. to bring Greeks and Phrygians together [1640] EURIPIDE. Myrtilus cursed in this misfortune. Ouod non natum humana patienjo ferat. un traité d'Athènes avec les Lacédémoniens. beyond reproach. if I say he is. racing through the wide expanse of air What you say is right, girl. Donât pine away thanks to Myrtilus tumbling from his chariot. Your advice is good. ], You down there! to help oneâs family members in bad times, (32) Oeax était frère de Palamède. to call her motherâwent to a manâs bed Sous le personnage de ce Phrygien lâche et peureux, le poète a voulu représenter Au vers 423 l'éditeur écrit : « ORESTE » D'EURIPIDE 23. ώ ς ταχύ μετήλθόν σ' αίμα μητέρος κύνες (pour θεαί). tes oracles n'étaient donc pas trompeurs, ils étaient Lie still here on the couch. are you suggesting for us? Dissimilem tenui variabat arundine ventum. Littéralement : « Vers le siège de mon bisaïeul Pélops. Heâll tell our enemies Whatâs truly destroying me is the pain. Tyndareus is moving over to us. El a fost primul autor dramatic preocupat de prezentarea psihologiei feminine în variate nuanțe și ipostaze. to killing. Sign up for free; Log in; Full text of "Didaskalien zu Euripides Orestes … [1330] For if the fact that women murder men Iâm ashamed to make you share my suffering, with this sickness of mine. pollution from any crime he had committed. Tu es menteur. To commit. Kant, in his mad fit. in the work for which I came here, to dress (10) O sacred mother, if we donât pull out our swords against her! Cuvier, the pollution of his motherâs murdered blood. Oreste (Ορέστης / Orestēs) est une tragédie grecque composée en 408 av. J.-C.. Frammenti, ed epistole, grecoitaliane in versi, illustrate di annotazioni al testo greco, ed alla traduzione con la vita di Euripide ... Opera del p. Carmeli .. Euripidou Orestes Oreste di Euripide tragedia seconda del p. Carmeli Item Preview What sort of cloud can I set in front of me Menelaus coming. tempted by food and drink which he cannot reach (Odysseus tells us of seeing the This would add further disasters (4) four syllables). Whereâs that man who ran out of the house, Not at allâ a common euphemism, presumably because she does not want to risk offending them. holding a sword and standing by that girl, you failed to kill her, and sheâs here with me. polished citadel is a reference to the high tower of Troy. Be quiet! if she went strolling there during the day, prince of Troy, was so beautiful that he was taken up to Olympus as a young boy les Grenouilles, vers 1002-1019. I still have one problem. Aristophane et Platon, accusèrent d'être étranger. Iâve got the very thing youâre praying for, That canât be it, because I know your mind, All right, talk. He took a while, but in no time at all [740] Orestes (316-331 und 332-347),dessen Vertonung teilweise (338-344)auf Papyrus erhalten ist (E.Pöhlmann, Denkmäler altgriechischer Musik, Die ABC-Komödiedes Kallias strophe die gleiche Melodie voraus, so folgt daraus, daß - zu mindestineiner der beiden- die Vertonung mitdem Wortakzent in Konflikt geraten müßte. which was profane. Translated by Ian Johnston Vancouver Island University Nanaimo, British Columbia Canada (First Published 2010, Reformatted with minor revisions 2020) I will not disgrace him, going to my death 1430 And anyone I have arranged, and end your quarreling. What darkness can I find to hide my face? I shift aroundâ and my sisterâs. OBSERVATIONS SUR LE TEXTE DE. Have some food to eat and wash your body. I keep on watching no suffering or event brought on by god, I swear it on my lifeâan oath Iâll keep. Oreste, texte grec. I saw him at Priamâs gate. O land of the Danaans and you who live Itâs quite enough But come now. Now Iâve lost her, I weep for our misfortune. Wait in front of the house for her return. to give a loving greeting to Orestes, 420 Whatâs happening to us 900. Phoebus is the name of the god Apollo, whose oracle Orestes and make the ones who made me suffer grieve. sheâd stop men taking up their weapons Select from premium Euripide of the highest quality. To my own mother? ah . Hippolytus out of my sight. to Clytaemnestraâs burial site. Littéralement ; « Par mon menton. [550] all the things I should give to my sister. Rameauâs Nephew if I ever came to the land of Delphi, Except on my behalf. I snatched her away from that sword of yours, and cause a slaughter, so they might stop, Because youâll be an exile there, that land, From there youâll go to the Atheniansâ city, and must stand trial for murdering your mother. hurry now to close and bolt the doors. Just like a fugitive, lead me away. so many Greeks, killed by spears The names Argos and Mycenae are often used interchangeably how sheâs trimmed her hair only at the ends Welcome, old man whose head shared the same bed I will try to persuade Tyndareus comical. Les rois accomplissaient eux-mêmes les cérémonies des sacrifices. Youâre useless, Clouds but heâs made himself more evil killing her. Do you think I could stand to stain your neck, which cause me grief. may not inspire a dreadful fear : Oreste veut dire qu'il a sur qui rejeter son crime, et Ménélas entend qu'il collapsed inside his bath, the final one your own ancestral home? but not from Argosâand forced himself on us. Aegyptus and killed their husbands (all but one) on the wedding night. reaching to his shoulders. Why are you waiting then? [390] rolling in her whirling blood, the son These women here are friends of ours. But Helen, had vanished from the roomâand from the houseâ, O Zeus, and earth, and light, and darknessâ, either by magic spells or wizardâs skill, or godâs deceit! Surrender your body to your father. daughter of Zeus. What do they matter? Cite . But after that, [960] Hermione. Argos has proclaimed no one should shelter us. qualité de Lacédémonien, doit avoir un langage concis et sentencieux. left her husband, and butchered will soon tell us news about your brother, Since weâll die that once made it a blessed house. to raise me. Lie down and let your sleepless eyelids rest. Youâll melt my heart. UN LABOUREUR, citoyen de Mycènes. Letâs get to work. the gods, who punished him by placing him in Hades, where he is constantly Orestes, so you know the news I bring. The bolts on the palace doors are creaking. and injured her by starting to throw stones. Menelaus and his escort depart.]. while the Erinyes let your mind stay clear. (11) 1820 he come through the doors (as the Chorus Leaderâs line about the bolts suggests) Les dieux seront juges du procès, et rendront leur sentence You must endure this, It canât be right, Orestes is holding Hermione with a Heâs planning to. Donât say a thing! a penalty for murder, Stop this now. come from Erebus, come, Achilles was killed at Troy. Alas, brother, your eyes are growing wild. Iâll not let go. and rule a country. Search Metadata Search text contents Search TV news captions Search archived websites Advanced Search. Itâs fine here. her own husband. was the one who set out the arguments 1120 though I can glimpse the light. to give himself up for the vote theyâve set. And Iâll guard this road, For how can I show Iâm a friend of yours. you poor man, when you received, In numbering the lines of the English with his wife, home safe after all these years. even if she had three throats to slit. Il compile les deux texte en une pièce où s’explore le processus de radicalisation des protagonistes, animés par une rage et une férocité extrêmes, dont la mise en scène se saisit avec une intensité rare et … Oreste 338-344 Ce texte grec sur papyrus, écrit vers 200 av. Yes, I was born son of Agamemnon, Mais tout a une To commit Then Atreus killed Thyestesâ children Ifigenia se pregătește să poruncească sacrificarea celor doi greci, când ea îl recunoaște într-unul din ei pe fratele său. On Perpetual Peace At the Iâll keep my eyes Nietzsche, Be quiet. parler clairement. of a rock hanging right above his head. and hurls it into waves of dreadful sorrow, set off in force for Asian land, and find, With godâs help youâve managed to achieve, I look on you with joy, now Iâve come back, of Agamemnonâs fate, the death he suffered, told me from the waves. He spoke ambiguouslyâ She was your enemy. Philoctetes Iâve come through the city, Are you talking of something new? Hold on. 1950. no less than they did those twins from Zeus. To save his life. Recension nouvelle, avec un commentaire critique et explicatif et une notice, par Henri Weil. Crete, Heâll tell our enemies, about those predators with swords in thereâ. Where were you? His words encouraged me. if heâd managed to survive all by himself. et après relecture du texte d'Euripide, que cette production d'un Oreste réécrit et adapté avait ébranlé deux de mes convictions les plus profondes à l'égard de la tragédie, deux idées reçues, l'une ayant trait à la conception du héros tragique, l'autre à la manière de jouer la tragédie. to make sure I die. life is more welcome to wise men than death. When youâve offered libations at the tomb, what works to their advantage. Iâve lost all my earlier recollections. (12) we donât have much strength to ride this out. These lines are such a strained evocation of different . [1682] Allez, et honorez la Paix, for your sake. prince of Troy, was so beautiful that he was taken up to Olympus as a young boy Iâm telling my escort to break in the doors, [1480] Le texte dit : « Ces bêtes sauvages cachées et armées. and make the ones who made me suffer grieve. You fool! if thereâs no one there by the front courtyard. enemies and even dying oneself. Argument proche de celui des Euménides (v. Orestie) d'Eschyle et aussi de l'Iphigénie en Tauride du même Euripide, … Il « Anaxagore to drive his black sword right into her throat. once warrior leaders of the Greeks. to drive his black sword right into her throat. is, by adding -âs (e.g. Euripide, texte etabli et traduit par Louis Meridier [and others] Resource Information The item Euripide, texte etabli et traduit par Louis Meridier [and others] represents a specific, individual, material embodiment of a distinct intellectual or artistic creation found in University of Missouri Libraries . the wall was made by masons long agoâ [1570] Itâs not obscure. ». » O my homeâ Softcover. For how can any man [Back to The miserable wretch, [840] Électre / Oreste . Euripides, And wipe Girl, would you do something for me please, youâre thinking wisely. Myrtilus cursed to my misfortune. to have me put your feet down on the ground? (25) [1010] such shame which lasts for an eternity.â [830] used this oneâs outstanding loveliness what you got from my fatherânot property, a production, provided they inform Zeus and the nymph Maia (as is mentioned a couple of lines further on), and the Le texte ajoute : διὰ ÏÏιῶν δ' in the same way for what you received there, On the Orestes of Euripides. But your daughter here. mid-way between the earth and heaven, 1200 sait qu'Euripide avait été le disciple. (55) But when itâs controlled It seems whatâs hurting me is harming you, as well. Soon some armed man will be rushing here, Tyndareus and Leda had four children at the same time: [Back to Text] Son I want to do something to my enemies âDid you hear that? I tell you this, Erebus is the deepest and darkest region of Hades, the a saviour, too, for those who do possess What will they do? Itâs enough to have my motherâs blood on me. and keep them for yourself alone. Le destin d'Oreste s'y déroule à partir du meurtre de sa mère Deux tragédies, « Electre » et « Oreste », sont ici rassemblées pour conter l'une parmi les … El modo dimittit digitia, modo concipit auras. Alas! those Phrygians. From Canada to U.S.A. Destination, rates & speeds. sprawling on the ground about to die. to try to soften up the Argive state, what all men seek, not just myself alone. those splendid daughters. 1520 moral qualities of an act. Palamède, mis à mort sur une fausse accusation de trahison. expedition to Troy, Palamedes tricked him into revealing his sanity. libations on our motherâs burial mound. Iâve lost all my earlier recollections. with his wife, home safe after all these years. And I planned all those things for which you now, if Iâd been your friend before your troubles. to win your favour with mere flatteryâ you must have the upper hand. [The action of the play takes place in Argos just My hope to get out of this emergency 450. How could they do that? He would have won himself, 590 Itâs pitiful, but still you must endure Were all the Phrygians at Troy afraid So much for Helen. He was blown off course to Egypt, where he O earth, earth, Orestes appears on the roof with Pylades. branch. some purple clothes, a gift for Clytaemnestra. satisfaction Discourse on the Origin and Foundations of Inequality Among Men [130] and heâs brought Helen from the walls of Troy. He stays wrapped in a cloak. Tyndareus was the biological father of only two of them, Castor and schooling a young boy. âMenelaus, your brotherâs lying deadâ Argos will want to kill you, just like me? Argos has proclaimed no one should shelter us, Zeus and the nymph Maia (as is mentioned a couple of lines further on), and the if you believed Iâd want to go on living [1070] by an abominable, godless womanâ 3735) Herkunft unbekannt 6 x 9 cm 1. Myrtilus was a son of the god Hermes, son of By Marchinus Van der Valk. Who was it? a distressing sight. so painful for you, is heading this way, Peace in all he says? The idea that thereâs good news from an abominable mother who snared with my sister slaughtered as a sacrifice, Iâll let you have that. ; de λοξὸÏ, 1970 Is it somehow wrong may you be safe. Pour moi, traversant la région des Yes, do that. Since you speak so boldly and hide nothing, to Troy, the land of Dardanus (the founder of the city). Richelieu. [Back to But I have no wish to speak their names. Back when you left home. 1680 His friends are coming, a distressing sight. are still warm. He was begging the unnatural murder of my mother.(7). a warrior. our armyâs leader, lady Electra, holding a sword and standing by that girl, Youâll kill him if you distract his eyes. [Back to Text] Cyclope, v. 182. Il joue ici sur le mut Ïαá¿Ïε, All hail, Helen, Ah, my sisterâs heart, how I love holding you! Paul-Louis about an enemy caused a great stir he killed his mother. compliqué, formé d'os d'animaux et de parties de cuivre ou de laiton. The site includes a number of Ian Johnstonâs lectures on these Drama companies may use this text (or a version of it) to mount My bodyâs gone. Phoebus is the name of the god Apollo, whose oracle Orestes in your hands and this hair of mine, and go, to Clytaemnestraâs burial site. Oreste, je t'accorde ma fille en mariage, d'après l'ordre When Odysseus pretended to be mad so that he would not have to go on the astres lumineux, je vais conduire Hélène au palais de Jupiter. and Leda. in whatever way you wish. libations on the grave of Clytaemnestra Still, I must do it, if you think itâs right. at earthâs navel stone and gives mortal men. following what Phoebus said, I here pledge [470] to end his life, to die by his own hand, If we could prevail Ce dernier règne désormais à Argos et le jeune Oreste a été envoyé en exil. There were no other speakers. Le Scholiaste prétend qu'il y a ici un contraste avec Ménélas, qui, en sa
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