May 13, 2020 Gavin Budget Reloading and Shooting, Reloading Blog 9mm +P, 9mm 147gr RN, Bear Creek Arsenal Glock Barrel, Berry's 9mm 147 grain Round Nose, Berry's Plated Bullets, Canik TP9SFX, Glock Replacement Barrel, Glock Threaded Barrel, Hodgdon CFE Pistol, Lee Loadmaster, Reloading, Reloading Blog, Reloading Press, Reloading Videos, Remington Primers, Starline 9mm, Ultimate Reloader. Seriously? I like 3.5 gr Bullseye under 147 grain Rainier or Berry bullet. by Tugnut » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:01 am, Post Munition 22 LR de Magtech . Ces armes appelées fusils ou carabines de jardin peuvent être redoutables à de courtes distances (15 à 20 mètres). I wouldn’t believe it if I didn’t see it, do it, and catch it on film! Hornady® Subsonic Ammunition — designed for accuracy and performance below the speed of sound — now comes in both rifle and handgun loads. Great shot placement, 95% of the velocity attained in the G17 (unsuppressed), 100% functioning, and a Standard Deviation in velocity of 2.7 FPS for 5 shots. by mrrogers1 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:09 pm, Post This ammunition was loaded on an inexpensive press (LEE Loadmaster), loaded with economical bullets (Berry’s 147 grain Plated 9mm Round Nose), and was shot through a low-cost micro pistol with outstanding results. GTG subsonic ammo is designed for suppressed or silenced firearms. I have found them to be the cleanest burning and produce the lowest amount smoke. by mrrogers1 » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:15 pm, Post Munitions Geco 9x19 154gr Subsonique. Thanks for the info, Racer. La munition GECO en calibre 9x19 subsonic est dotée dune ogive FMJ (Full Metal Jacket) dun poids de 154 grains. Most 147gr. Ultimate Reloader is not responsible for errors in load data on this website. I am using 3.6gr of Winchester 231 over a 147gr Rainier Ballistics plated JHP. Accuracy for this 147 grain subsonic load was awesome, but it was the chronograph data where things were even more impressive, with a twist! I've been hunting everywhere locally for 147gr 9mm. Has anyone tried to duplicate the Portugese FNM SS round. by Racer » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:21 pm, Post I have tried just about all pistol powders for subsonic 9mm and settled on Vihtavuori N320 and N340, and prefer N340 of those two. Poll: What handgun cartridge do you reload most often? by mrrogers1 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:41 am, Post Since eventually someone will ask for Phil Dater's favorite recipe for 9mm for a Raptor on an MP5, it is: I am using 3.6gr of Winchester 231 over a 147gr Rainier Ballistics plated JHP. Favorite 9mm subsonic load. Makes a good training load out of the pistols. Modérateur de son SKM Impuls - ∅ 9mm - 1/2x28. Always cross-reference load data with manufacturer’s published data. Remington Subsonic is the result of a collaboration between AAC and Remington to deliver quiet ammunition designed to maximize the effectiveness of the silencer. by Tugnut » Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:21 am, Post Super quiet! La plupart des rechargements classiques des tireurs au 9mm Para, sont souvent déjà subsonique, et investir dans des balles de 147 grains (souvent vendues bien plus cher, jusqu'à 2 ou 3 fois le prix des 124/125 grains ) n'est pas vraiment une nécessité pour tirer en subsonique. Subsonic Handgun utilizes tried-and-true XTP® bullets that expand reliably at subsonic velocities. I like the idea of VV powder for suppressors, lower burn temperature than hot stuff like titegroup or bullseye, and lower muzzle pressure. Ultimate Reloader LLC is not responsible for errors in load data on this website. The accuracy for the Canik TP9SFX and the Glock 17 (without suppressor) were very comparable. Required fields are marked *. WOW. Dotée d’une ogive en plomb durci à pointe creuse, elle est faite pour s’écraser sur sa cible avec une pénétration limitée. 16 articles vous permettront d'évaluer, comparer et forger votre opinion sur de nombreux produits vendus sur NaturaBuy dans la catégorie Munitions - Balles 22LR These 9mm Luger rounds from Military Ballistics Industries (MBI) are great for suppressed use as well as for replicating the recoil of common carry ammo! by osprey21 » Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:40 am, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. Hornady® Subsonic Ammunition — designed for accuracy and performance below the speed of sound — now comes in both rifle and handgun loads. For the testing conducted in this article, I withdrew the Kel-Tec from my IWB holster, unloaded the magazine and chamber, blew away the pocket lint, and started shooting. Poll: What’s your number one reason for reloading? Does it have to do with the math? ... 25708 avis clients 4.8/5 |voir tous les avis| Envoyez nous VOS DOCUMENTS. Your email address will not be published. Yes, that was a great range day. This yields about 995 fps in my PT-92 with Omega PC-K2 suppressor. But because of this long bullet’s incredible ballistic coefficient of .648, at 500 yards it surpasses the energy of a full-power 55-grain .223 Rem., and nearly triples that of the .45 ACP, and it does so in a hushed tone. I started with a Hornady Classic single stage press and am now running a Dillon XL-750! CFE Pistol is one of my favorite powders for 9, but I’m curious – how did you decide to use magnum primers? SELLIER & BELLOTCal.9mm LUGER (PARA) SUBSONICType: Full Metal Jacket Poids: 140 grains (9.0g)Vitesse: 305m/sEnergie: 419 joulesLot de 20 Boites de 50 cartouches 9mm Luger 147 gr XTP ® Subsonic Item #90287 | 25/Box Shhh... tell everyone! by Tugnut » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:41 am, Post BOITE DE 50 MUNITIONS 9x19 FMJ SELLIER & BELLOT - BLINDÉE : En raison de la simplicité du procédé de fabrication, la balle blindée offre un prix de revient bas qui se reflète sur son coût d'achat, ce qui en fait une munition très intéressante pour les tireurs à forte cadence d'entrainements. Poll: What Reloading Components Can’t You Find? loads are, but some are not.I have seen a few FMJ suppressor loadings advertised, but I have yet to find a defensive load that is marketed as subsonic. Well, it could be my cheap ass Chrony that's wrong.... Well I did some more testing this time with two chronographs (one was used for my original data). You have to buy it from the maker -- Alabama Ammunition. 4/5 shots on 10″ steel at 24.1 yards (I was SHOCKED) and the following chronograph data: (click/tap to enlarge). Why 24.1 yards? Old=F1 Chrony, Second=Beta Master Chrony. 9mm Luger Ammo The 9×19mm Parabellum (abbreviated 9mm, 9mmP, 9×19mm or 9×19) cartridge was designed by Georg Luger and introduced in 1902 by the German weapons manufacturer Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken (DWM) for their Luger semi-automatic pistol. Most rifle loadings are all supersonic, so subsonic loads are specially down-loaded to … I am not sure of their phone number. Dealer price on that stuff is pretty cheap. I shoot a lot of 9mm, so I recently purchased a Bear Creek Arsenal threaded Glock 17 barrel that has performed really well! 'http':'https';if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src=p+'://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js';fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document, 'script', 'twitter-wjs'); © 2021 Copyright 2016 Ultimate Reloader LLC. Il sagit donc dune ogive blindée, ce qui lui confère un fort pouvoir de pénétration ainsi quune très faible déformation à limpact. On dit qu’une ogive vole à vitesse transsonique (ou sonique) lorsque sa vitesse est comprise entre 310 m/s et 380 m/s, ce qui correspond de Mach 0,9 à Mach 1,1. Think .45 ACP. Used in my HK P30L w/ Octane 9 HD suppressor. I haven’t lubricated this pistol in years- and it functioned 100% during during this testing! The Ransom Rest is an invaluable tool for testing handgun accuracy. Bear Creek Arsenal threaded Glock 17 barrel, Lee Loadmaster Unboxing/Setup, Loading 9mm, this article for full review of that pistol, Subscribe to Ultimate Reloader Reloading Blog by Email, TESTED: Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor Brass (Large and Small Primer), My Most Sensitive Scale: AND EJ-54D2 (0.003 grains), TESTED: Winchester StaBALL 6.5 Creedmoor-Class Powder, Learn From the Best: Rifle Building Class with Gordy Gritters, Unsolved: 44 Magnum Over-Pressure Mystery, RCBS Lock-Out Die Part II: Setup and Maintenance, RCBS Lock-Out Die Part I: Theory of Operation, Reloading Safety: Powder Check Systems Overview. This is out of a 5" MP5K barrel, fluted chamber and QD3K can. Some data is shown that is subsonic. Contact ultimate reloader by clicking here. I have to ask. Bullets used in this article: (click below), Brass used in this article: (click below), Barrel used in this article: (click below). Why not 24 yards? by BBlakley » Mon May 23, 2005 6:35 am, Post The Glock 17 (with same Bear Creek Arsenal threaded barrel) shot *slightly* better without the suppressor, but not enough to make a difference for what I have planned. Joined: Apr 24, 2008 Poll: Where are you finding reloading primers and powder? Pour le 9mm préférer les FMJ ou TMJ (électro cuivrés) qui forcément n’emplomberont pas le canon. Now that I have suppressors, I’m very interested in subsonic loads for pistols and rifles that I shoot frequently. ronin.45. by noiseless » Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:48 am, Post I shoot a lot of 9mm, so I recently purchased a Bear Creek Arsenal threaded Glock 17 barrel that has performed really well! This setup (Glock 17 and Osprey 45 suppressor) is the result I cared about most for this load since it’s the setup I plan to use to shoot subsonic 9mm most frequently (at least, until I get a threaded barrel for the Canik TP9SFX!). Pretty much any 147 grain 9mm ammunition is subsonic. check_circle. As a note: Special K in this gun/silencer combination has V= 1010 fps and sounds a little louder to my ears. Messages: 14,386 Likes Received: 4,954. Here’s the roll-up data: The Canik TP9SFX has proven to be an accurate pistol, and this load worked well with it for sure! Subsonic Handgun utilizes tried-and-true XTP® bullets that expand reliably at subsonic velocities. I would love to know, as well, as my suppressed Cx4 is my preferred bedside weapon, if I know it's going down 'inside.' In 9mm, most loading data are supersonic. Type: Subsonique. It runs about 100fps less out of my G17, and cycles my M9 and Browning Hi-Power perfectly as well. Gives me 975fps out of my 10" Colt 635 barrel with Gemtech Raptor can. Munitions tir de loisir, 22LR, Plombs 4,5mm et 9mm Flobert > Munitions - Balles 22LR. This load functions the gun 100% with factory springs. I’ve been experimenting w/ 147gr subsonic loads as well, but with Blue Bullets. Votre nom * Titre * Avis * Envoyer * Champs requis. by mrrogers1 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:56 pm, Post Poll: What Rifle Cartridge Do You Reload Most Often? 9mm 147gr Subsonic “Magic Load”, Hard to Believe! Love this story! Les munitions GECO offrent une excellente qualité et un rapport prix performance remarquable. chemcmndr, Jan 2, 2012. chemcmndr, Jan 2, 2012. Hornady’s 300 BLK subsonic 208-grain A-Max load, for example, delivers 480 foot-pounds of energy from a carbine’s muzzle. Material connection (partnerships) information available at http://ultimatereloader.com/about/, Don’t miss out on Ultimate Reloader updates, make. Le pistolet 9mm, également connu sous le 9 × 19, le lugeur 9mm Parabellum ou 9mm, est le calibre le plus populaire pour pistolets / armes de poing qui sont menées dans le monde entier. Tous les canons de 9mm para (et autres calibres) sont sensiblement différents d’où cette mesure. .embed-container { position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.25%; height: 0; overflow: hidden; max-width: 100%; height: auto; } .embed-container iframe, .embed-container object, .embed-container embed { position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; }. Therefore, the development of a reliable 9mm subsonic load was “top of list” for me recently. by Racer » Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:56 am, Post by fq1234 » Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:46 pm, Post This is due to the use of a 147-grain plated round nose bullet from Berry's which is loaded to fly at subsonic speeds. by Mongo » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:41 am, Post I shot 5-shot groups for each pistol (multiple sets) until things settled down and “round groups” were observed. It runs about 100fps less out of my G17, and cycles my M9 and Browning Hi-Power perfectly as well. !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=/^http:/.test(d.location)? by QuietShootr » Wed May 04, 2005 10:59 pm, Post I just saw that AMMOMAN has Federal 146 SS for $175 a case. Dr. Dater, I am pretty sure, knows how to duplicate Special K. I would never make it when I can buy it. I just made a 9mm subsonic load of 3.3gr of VV N320, 147 Berry's plated, 1.155 coal. What was harder to believe was the results. Les munitions utilisée sont à percussion centrale. And this load performed really well! C'est à ce jour le calibre d'arme de poing le plus largement répandu au monde, notamment comme munition d'arme de poing standard de l'OTAN.Sa dénomination métrique est 9 × 19 mm.Il est parfois nommé 9 mm Para ou encore 9 mm Luger, car mis au point par Georg Luger pour son fameux Luger P08. Thanks. by Tugnut » Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:22 am, Post I'll check it out if I don't score on Monday. It literally takes the “human factor” out of the equation. Here’s a roll-up of the Glock 17 and Canik TP9SFX data: (click/tap to enlarge), **Note that two shots for the Canik TP9SFX data were not recorded due to a shot alignment issue (human error), My Kel-Tec PF9 is my everyday city carry gun (and ranch carry outside of bear season). Si balles plombs alors le choix doit être plus judicieux, il faudra mesurer l’intérieur du canon afin de choisir le diamètre adéquat. It also features a non corrosive boxer primer and a lead core full metal jacket bullet flat nose. by mrrogers1 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:46 pm, Post It's about impossible to find. The Sub-X bullet used in Subsonic Rifle features a lead core. by osprey21 » Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:42 pm, Post 3.8gr Bullseye under a 147gr FMJ went about 950fps also. Jan 3, 2012 #3 . On dit qu’une ogive vole à vitesse subsonique lorsque sa vitesse est très inférieure à celle du son, c’est à dire inférieure à 300 m/s. Découvrez notre sélection de carabines 12mm et 410 en mono coup, superposés et juxtaposés avec les marques : BAIKAL, FALCO, GAUCHER, MANU CHASSE. Since I reload, I used a friend's recipe for competition 147 grain rounds as my subsonic load. by silencertalk » Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:07 pm, Post I wonder if something about your Taurus barrel yields higher velocities like a tighter chamber, smoother rifling, or a better gas seal? All data in this caliber is subsonic but is not normally tagged with the name subsonic. And I found the “load that can do it all” with some unexpected surprises too… And that’s the subject of this article! Marque: Magtech. Use load data at your own risk. Remington Subsonic 9mm Luger Ammo 147 Grain FNEB ammo review offers the following information; Remington Subsonic ammo featured virgin brass never fired brand new brass casings for those shooters that like to reload their 9mm Luger ammunition. Special K clocks about 950fps with a suppressor attached. Oh yea, and excellent results out of what’s basically a snubby in semi-auto. The tricky part is going to be determining 'subsonic.' Find your best price for 9mm Luger Ammo handgun subsonic | Best 9mm Luger Ammunition handgun subsonic - AmmoSeek.com Search Engine 2021 J'aurai un autre avis à recevoir: Je recharge pour mon colt 1911 en 9mm avec les memes douilles mêmes ogives et même poudre. I call this an “Adventure in Economy”. For the testing of this 147 grain 9mm load, I shot 5-shot groups through my Glock 17 (with and without Osprey 45 Suppressor), and my Canik TP9SFX (see this article for full review of that pistol). Follow @UReloader
Would love for you to do the same thing except with standard primers (Winchester or CCI), just to see if the magnum primers were a difference maker. Does anyone know the "Secret Sauce" in the Special K? This cost effective 9mm ammunition is loaded with a brass casing, Winchester primer and powder along with a 147 grain full metal jacket (FMJ). Subsonic Drive Pro Sport – Avis sur un volant entrée de gamme Subsonic Drive Pro Sport – Avis sur un volant entrée de gamme Sam ayant pu tester auparavant le brillant mais néanmoins onéreux Thrustmaster P310 Sparco , on nous a proposé d’y essayer un volant entrée de gamme » Subsonic … I worked up this load for my recent story showcasing the LEE Loadmaster: Here’s the components used for the load featured in that article/story: Use load data at your own risk. It’s about 15 years old, and has literally shot just about every type of 9mm ammunition I could throw at it with near 100% reliability. Your email address will not be published. Mon problème est que je dois descendre ma LHT à 28,72 mm pour être à fleur des rayures autrement je plante au dessus et apres avoir effectué mon échelle je groupe qu'a partir de la charge maximale qui est de 0,28 gr. Poll: What Progressive Reloading Press Do You Use Most? Post by QuietShootr » Thu May 05, 2005 3:59 am I am using 3.6gr of Winchester 231 over a 147gr Rainier Ballistics plated JHP. Subsonic ammunition usually uses heavier bullets to retain as much energy and momentum as possible at the lower velocities. by Racer » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:49 pm, Post Contrairement à tout autre calibre, la plupart des fabricants de pistolet calibre ont tendance à un grand nombre de leurs pistolets à 9mm. lol. I’ve been watching your vids for years now and have greatly expanded my reloading knowledge thanks to you. by Racer » Thu May 05, 2005 1:13 am, Post Hard to believe. by silencertalk » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:29 pm, Post by mpallett » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:42 am, Post Don’t miss out on Ultimate Reloader updates, make sure you’re subscribed! If you liked the load shown in this article (I sure do), you’ll want to stock up on Starline Brass and Berry’s 147 grain bullets! The following is a summary of this testing. Therefore, the development of a reliable 9mm subsonic load was “top of list” for me recently. Une balle subsonique, du préfixe latin sub- (sous) et sonique (relatif au son), est une balle dont la vitesse en sortie de bouche du canon est inférieure à la vitesse du son, soit inférieure à 340 m/s. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. SubSonic Ammo Refine Search: -- Select -- .223 SubSonic .308 Win SubSonic 300 Blackout SubSonic In Stock Items Only Sort By : Default Name (A - Z) Name (Z - A) Price (Low > High) Price (High > Low) Model (A - Z) Model (Z - A) Show : 20 25 50 75 100 by stymie » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:17 pm, Post Quality. Type d'ogive: Creuse l'avis de l'expert. Gives me 975fps out of my 10" Colt 635 barrel with Gemtech Raptor can. GECO cal.9mm PARA FMJ IPSC Subsonic (154gr) /1000 cartouches. These loads are noted as subsonic. This ammunition caters to the silencer user or anyone just wanting a dependable and consistent subsonic load that does not produce supersonic cracks. Cette munition subsonique de calibre .22 LR est idéale pour s’accorder avec une arme munie d’un réducteur de son, ce qui permet des tirs remarquablement silencieux. Now that I have suppressors, I’m very interested in subsonic loads for pistols and rifles that I shoot frequently. Always cross-reference load data with manufacturer's published data. Voici le pack de 50 balles de calibre 22 LR (22 long Rifle) de type subsonique de la marque Winchester.. Qu'est-ce qu'une balle subsonique ? by noiseless » Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:37 am, Post LIVRAISON CHEZ VOUS dans un POINT RELAIS ou dans NOTRE MAGASIN. Post Le 9 × 19 mm Parabellum est un calibre de cartouche destinée aux pistolets semi-automatiques.
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